I have. And do when they are worth noting. I was really pleased with the flossers but doubted anyone wanted to see a glowing tribute to the bit of twine between my teeth.

Go Wings!

(Side note, I am going to Traverse City for training camp, my parents went a couple years ago and got my Kocur jersey signed by everyone there on the Cup team plus some tryouts and including Scotty Bowman, who I heard rarely signs jerseys!)

(grin) I've tried the progressive dollar machines before - or back in my po' boy days I would battle it out with the blue-haired biddies trying to loose thier Social Security checks on the nickel slots while they sucked down the free booze and chain-smoked a carton of Kents...

But it wasn't 5 grand on slots. Unless playing the $20 a pull or higher machines, I cannot even fathom dropping 5 grand in slots, just in the time needed to do it.

And gambling is gambling, this is purchasing. No we have no idea what we are getting, but as you noted with the lights, we pay money, we should get something usable!

I didn't sniff anything, the battery chargers taught me not to do that. I got them out and as stated above ran them thru their paces (not the XM dock because it ONLY works with two models and has NO OTHER way of using it - someone at TF didn't stop to think of that before loading these boxes???). I have clearly delineated why I am dissatisfied with these items, I didn't just open it and figure - Crap! I, by nature of being only one human, speak only for myself and that should be understood in these forums, but some like to take them as wide-ranging, I-speak-for-all posts. Read thru mine, never made that assumption.

Obviously, someone who has one of the two XM radio models that work with that dock will be more than pleased with it. I have that brands docks for my Zune and two that work with any MP3 player and am very happy with them (got them right here at TF), the sound is good and they are fully usable without being locked to one or two relatively low selling item.

I also said where I was happy with this, my PDA holder cum camera case is quite nice.

If anyone is reading thru these, bought the box (after all this thread is for people who BOUGHT the box) and is happy with any of the large ticket items, PLEASE POST. Tell us what you find good about them. Rationalizing that it could have been worse doesn't help us or let TF know how dissatisfied we are and as they DO read these forums (and here I give TF huge props for actually doing that and in some cases responding to us!) perhaps things can get better. Look at the state of our nation. Politicians don't bother to think about what we think until we actually open our mouths and start pummeling them with how bad we think it is - immigration reform anyone?

I'm not complaining just to see the pretty letters on the screen, I am trying to let people know we are dissatisfied! Okay, that I am dissatisfied, but I doubt that I am alone in that!

Awesome. Wish I had the time to take off for a training camp. On the other hand, while I'm a HUGE Wings fan, I'd rather spend my vacation days in some exotic part of the world or some beach in a far away place. I DID go to Stanley Cup Finals games 1 and 2 though.

Well sorry folks did not get what they thought was worth it . But then again I have got a few items off here and just knew that there was nothing that was going to be in a box for $123.45 that would make me want to risk it .

To another poster, I was in vegas and did play the slots .

while I did not speng $5k I did set a limit of $100 a day while I was there and had a great time and came out a little bit ahead

But sorry just could not gamble on sucha high end box . I think the folks here should remember that this is a lot of close out and discountuined stuff so retail price does not apply

My jaw is on the floor, I stand before you all humbled and ashamed. Today at work a guy came in and saw the XM dock on my back desk and asked what it was. I told him, he looked at it and said his wife had one of those in her car (meaning the Roady's). I told him he was welcome to it if he could use it and he looked stunned, asked me how much I wanted for it, I just replied, if you can use it, you can have it. So there is now a man making his wife happy tonight, and I get to apologize to you all. Somewhat.

I finally figured out what to do with the iPod vid dock. I had said I hooked up a pinhole cam to it and it looked like watching an old TV thru gauze (this cam has an amazing picture quality), played with it a little longer and hooked an old video camera to it. The resolutions must be more compatible because even though it still looks pretty bleary, I can at least see it a little better. So now I have a "spy cam" on top of my outside cubicle and can watch people walking down the hall toward my office and see them before they get to my office. IT guys out there will understand - I need time to clear the screen of the video card testing program I am running (also known as Duke Nuke'em).

See, they can find uses, but gosh darnit all, these things weren't made for this and the applications they are made for aren't all that great. Like I said before, I understand that is why TF has them and the manufacturers are flogging them to TF. I'm not mad about exactly waht I got, just that to use them you have to have something else for it to be functional

It amazes me that some of you don't seem to understand that even those of us violently decrying how upset we are DO understand it's a mystery, that's why we keep buying them. This is my 13th or 14th MB and definitely not my last, either. I'm hooked just as bad as anyone else. I just felt that we were hyped up for the letdown. And not that these were bad items, they just aren't usable by a lot of people.

Some posters are talking about how many people don't post, assuming if they think it's good they'll be jumped on. Have you all noticed that there is a community here that has a fairly small rotation of "the usual suspects", then a few new ones here and there (and we hope they stay in) that was the idea behind TF's big push for "community", they don't get anything out of these forums other than our thoughts, and I believe (rightly or wrongly) that they want to know what we think. They take a huge chance not moderating these and removing negative posts. For web savvy buyers, forums are the first place they go and negative posts could very well mean loss of sales. But they still allow it, allowing us to freely post our opinions, thoughts and wandering rambings. I applaud them for that, and hope they get as much good from our bad as they do from our praise. I work in IT, our Help Desk has a feedback option on all tickets. The negatives far outweigh the positive just because people rarely feel the need to praise good work, but they will always shout about bad. And when those positive ones come thru, the feeling is great!

And Royals, if yer reading this, I had another idea for you. Stand Alone Not Dependent Box. Who wouldn't buy a SANDBOX???

So in my last post on this thread (for now), I have been able to use pretty much everything in the box in one way or another, the box is empty and out of my head now!

Wishing you all a lovely adieu...

You have NOTHING to be ashamed of. I think we all usually get to splitting hairs towards the ends of these threads. One thing we can both agree on is that item-specific accessories can be relativly useless to most folk.

It's nice that you were able to pass it forward with the XM. That kind of karma ususally is repaid ten-fold.

I think another thing we can all agree on is that the forums here on TF are pretty neat. Woot tends to have fanboys posting 3 word bits of gibberish. Here there is typically a lot of literate (and of course passionate) postings. Aside from the neat deals - it's what makes TF stand out in the crowded world of DOD sites...

I'm NOT 'jumping on the bandwagon' here....

I just want to say that even though we don't LIKE to hear all the complaining and fighting...EVENTUALLY we DO learn something

For example:

malongfe said this:

I finally figured out what to do with the iPod vid dock. I had said I hooked up a pinhole cam to it and it looked like watching an old TV thru gauze (this cam has an amazing picture quality), played with it a little longer and hooked an old video camera to it. The resolutions must be more compatible because even though it still looks pretty bleary, I can at least see it a little better. So now I have a "spy cam" on top of my outside cubicle and can watch people walking down the hall toward my office and see them before they get to my office. IT guys out there will understand - I need time to clear the screen of the video card testing program I am running (also known as Duke Nuke'em).

Well!! Who would have thought??

I've seen other posts in other threads similar to this...piss and moan...but then AHA! Since I can't use it for X, I made it into Y

So..keep on posting...complaints AND compliments...and DEFINITELY those crazy ideas we might not have thought of As long as we can 'kiss and make-up' in the end...it's ALL GOOD!!

OMG! I am so sorry! There was a link to your ended auction on this thread. I couldn't believe what it sold for. That is really too bad.

I've gotta say one more thing -

I'm highly amused that this thread has stayed active for two weeks, and that for as many of us that were very disappointed in what we got, there are quite a few of us disappointed folks who came back to the forum to post multiple times.

Guess that tells you something about how disappointed we really are, eh?