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angelsvintageattic
#61 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2008 6:32:44 AM

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Fhener your little one is adorable! Love that pic..definately greeting card quality! Love it!

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause
jjfs85
#62 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2008 12:44:37 PM

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I'm currently working on my future submission. It will be in a different medium than the stuff posted so far.... Think Cool
veedubkid
#63 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:15:51 PM

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jjfs85 wrote:
I'm currently working on my future submission. It will be in a different medium than the stuff posted so far.... Think Cool


Hacking as an ARTZ form?
Awesome. Should I take it your girl has gone?
Zombies are my favorite! I know what AVA looks like Smile
scaredwitless
#64 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2008 2:10:46 PM

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@Debs: You surely may, though unfortunately what you see is what you get, I have no higher resolution version.

angelsvintageattic wrote:

No wayyyy! How did you do this?? Is this done with a computer? It's super awesome! I've always wanted to learn computer art...I love the realism of it yet surreal at the same time! It's actually my favorite type of art! You did this at 14/15? damn! How do you do this?? I also want to learn how to make fractals..but from what I understand..there's math involved and well..I'm a totally right brained person and just don't do the math! But seriously...tell me how you did this..I've never known anyone that can do this sort of thing.

Have any more pieces like this?? Please show them?? Pray


@Ava, yup that there's what you might call computer art. Wink

It's basically what they now mostly refer to a CGI, which is the stuff that all Pixar movies (Toy Story being the first) are made from.

Essentially, you build a #-d virtual theme. You make 3-d models (usually represented initially in wire frames), which is kinda like virtual sculpting. Then you apply texture to these models, adjust things like their reflectivity, hardness, etc. You build a scene like you're making a set. You place all your 3-d models how you want them. Then you place the virtual camera in how you want it, at the elevation, angle, etc. Finally you place your light sources for lighting up the scene. When all done you render it, and the ray-tracing part is done by the computer--it calculates how light from your light source will look at the trajectory it is coming in at, and how it looks reflecting off all the reflective objects in your sign. Back in the day when I used to toil I used a program called Imagine, and it was a hell of a lot of work because the computer was so slow back then that it'd take hours just to render you a scene to see how your scene looks, so you'd render, adjust, and render again. All the while taking very long breaks in between...

Thankfully now adays computers have gotten much faster, but I haven't played with that particular stuff in a very long time now though.

Unfortunately seem to be missing the bulk of my old pieces, but I will post another that I do have right after this post.
scaredwitless
#65 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2008 2:20:00 PM

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Edit: shrunk it to better fit the forum page.

Here is another oldie, and another reflectivy one by request. t is a little later on than the other I posted, I was probably 17 or so at the time. It actually is a much simpler scene compared to Summer Dreams, the objects are far simpler actually.

Rebirth by Scaredwitless
debspurpledragon
#66 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2008 2:48:41 PM

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WOW!! Those are really cool! I don't think I'd have the patience to do that though Laughing Laughing

OOPS...now I guess I must sumbit something...brb...gotta find one
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debspurpledragon
#67 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:45:19 PM

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There'a heaviness in my chest
An empty vessel waiting to be filled
Reflections in my eyes
Are of pain nd suffering
My head is heavy
My mind a waste
My body an open wound
Who will be the next to inflict
The misery of love lost
A burdon not to share
49 Flings Flung and WAAY more to come!
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jjfs85
#68 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:02:55 AM

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veedubkid wrote:
jjfs85 wrote:
I'm currently working on my future submission. It will be in a different medium than the stuff posted so far.... Think Cool


Hacking as an ARTZ form?
Awesome. Should I take it your girl has gone?
Yup. I'm haxxing up a whole messa artz. You'll see.
kimota
#69 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:39:26 AM

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The World Through His Eyes by kimota


Click picture for bigger version. Do it, the higher resolution helps.

Admittedly, this is a very schmaltzy title, but that's what I can't help but think when I look at this picture. This is one of my favorite pictures of my son, when he was four months old. What strikes me about it is the amount of detail and color that's in the reflection in his eyes. And his expression, as he takes it all in, his young mind processing as fast as it can.
"A boat's a boat, but the mystery box could be anything. It could even be a boat! You know how much we wanted one of those!" -Peter Griffin
debspurpledragon
#70 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:48:37 AM

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Applause Definitely better enlarged!!

Are you submitting it for the contest?? You need to edit it and put CONTEST at the top
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dkferret
#71 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:16:04 PM

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CONTEST

The Clown by dkferret



This is Ringo, one of my ferrets. He had lived his entire life in a small cage and when I adopted him and let him loose in my house, he became the funniest creature I ever encountered. He just wanted to play and run! He was never caged again. Here he is playing in a box of styrofoam peanuts.

Sorry the picture is so small, I don't have a bigger one at the moment.
62 flings (105 counting multiples), $1861 spent!
kimota
#72 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:17:03 PM

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debspurpledragon wrote:
Applause Definitely better enlarged!!

Are you submitting it for the contest?? You need to edit it and put CONTEST at the top
Thanks! I already have my first picture tagged for the contest. It's too late to edit the first one, but I stand by my decision as I think Perspective is more "arty".
"A boat's a boat, but the mystery box could be anything. It could even be a boat! You know how much we wanted one of those!" -Peter Griffin
angelsvintageattic
#73 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:36:27 PM

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scaredwitless wrote:

@Ava, yup that there's what you might call computer art. Wink

It's basically what they now mostly refer to a CGI, which is the stuff that all Pixar movies (Toy Story being the first) are made from.

Essentially, you build a #-d virtual theme. You make 3-d models (usually represented initially in wire frames), which is kinda like virtual sculpting. Then you apply texture to these models, adjust things like their reflectivity, hardness, etc. You build a scene like you're making a set. You place all your 3-d models how you want them. Then you place the virtual camera in how you want it, at the elevation, angle, etc. Finally you place your light sources for lighting up the scene. When all done you render it, and the ray-tracing part is done by the computer--it calculates how light from your light source will look at the trajectory it is coming in at, and how it looks reflecting off all the reflective objects in your sign. Back in the day when I used to toil I used a program called Imagine, and it was a hell of a lot of work because the computer was so slow back then that it'd take hours just to render you a scene to see how your scene looks, so you'd render, adjust, and render again. All the while taking very long breaks in between...

Thankfully now adays computers have gotten much faster, but I haven't played with that particular stuff in a very long time now though.

Unfortunately seem to be missing the bulk of my old pieces, but I will post another that I do have right after this post.


Yeah...and I love this stuff better than my own art! Sharp, crisp, 3-dimensional and liquid all at one time! Love it! Always wanted to learn how..is it hard to learn?

Now..I've done plaster art which required me to create wire frames..but again...off computer..want to do it ON computer! Looks like it's way too much fun and so beautiful when done!

I also want to learn how to create Fractals but well..there's math involved and I just can't do the math!

Are there any free programs out there that I can try it out to see if I can actually learn how to do this? Maybe that Imagine program since it's now probably considered old and outdated??
angelsvintageattic
#74 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:43:28 PM

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And NOW...something completely different..............

A DOG!!! Bad Grin

For all you dog lovers out there...I bring you...a German Shepherd!

Done in Prisma Color art pencils

jjfs85
#75 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:19:38 PM

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angelsvintageattic wrote:

Yeah...and I love this stuff better than my own art! Sharp, crisp, 3-dimensional and liquid all at one time! Love it! Always wanted to learn how..is it hard to learn?

Now..I've done plaster art which required me to create wire frames..but again...off computer..want to do it ON computer! Looks like it's way too much fun and so beautiful when done!

I also want to learn how to create Fractals but well..there's math involved and I just can't do the math!

Are there any free programs out there that I can try it out to see if I can actually learn how to do this? Maybe that Imagine program since it's now probably considered old and outdated??
Good news. There are free CGI programs that you can try. It can be difficult and the programs are usually complicated, but they need to be in order to offer the user the ability to do ANYTHING he/she wants. The program I have experience with is Maya. You can download a free version of Maya here. If you really want to learn how to do this stuff though, you absolutely positively need to go and buy a tutorial book specifically for Maya. Since Maya's such a popular and well used program, you shouldn't have much trouble with that. If you try to use Maya without reading a tutorial you will be utterly confused and discouraged. I never got very good at making 3d stuff, but it was fun to try. I hope you have fun too.
angelsvintageattic
#76 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:01:06 PM

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jjfs85 wrote:
angelsvintageattic wrote:

Yeah...and I love this stuff better than my own art! Sharp, crisp, 3-dimensional and liquid all at one time! Love it! Always wanted to learn how..is it hard to learn?

Now..I've done plaster art which required me to create wire frames..but again...off computer..want to do it ON computer! Looks like it's way too much fun and so beautiful when done!

I also want to learn how to create Fractals but well..there's math involved and I just can't do the math!

Are there any free programs out there that I can try it out to see if I can actually learn how to do this? Maybe that Imagine program since it's now probably considered old and outdated??
Good news. There are free CGI programs that you can try. It can be difficult and the programs are usually complicated, but they need to be in order to offer the user the ability to do ANYTHING he/she wants. The program I have experience with is Maya. You can download a free version of Maya here. If you really want to learn how to do this stuff though, you absolutely positively need to go and buy a tutorial book specifically for Maya. Since Maya's such a popular and well used program, you shouldn't have much trouble with that. If you try to use Maya without reading a tutorial you will be utterly confused and discouraged. I never got very good at making 3d stuff, but it was fun to try. I hope you have fun too.


OH wow..thanks! bookmarked that site and now need to find a book...is there a dummy's book for this?? will most definately need a dummy or idio book for this! Laughing

can't wait to play with it! Hope I can do it! Anxious
fhener
#77 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:25:47 PM

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Here's another daughter... a couple years ago!

We''ll call it

Perfection

angelsvintageattic
#78 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:36:16 PM

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Well JJ...I downloaded that program and you're right! A book! I think I'm going to need "Maya for Complete Morons" though! Shock Any book recommendations?
HendersonHenderson
#79 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:28:25 PM

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angelsvintageattic wrote:
And NOW...something completely different..............

A DOG!!! Bad Grin

For all you dog lovers out there...I bring you...a German Shepherd!

Done in Prisma Color art pencils



One word - simply AMAZING................

Okay - I think that counted as two words - but you get my drift. Awesome!!!!



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#80 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2008 1:17:47 AM

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You all are very talented. Be proud , some people cant even draw stick men(me!)Embarassed
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