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aacwks
#1 Posted : Saturday, May 10, 2008 10:15:45 PM

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I am needing some help with a wireless router. Since I now have a laptop, I am trying to get this Linksys WRT54GC router that I bought here a long time ago to work. I know that the paperwork and any disks that may or may not have been included are in this huge pile of papers on my desk, but I am hoping I won't have to try to find the needle in the haystack.

I have plugged it in, put the ethernet cable from my modem into the blue plug, and my ethernet cable going to my desktop into one of the 4 yellow plugs, but nether wired or wireless internet will work. I've tried unplugging the power and trying again, but that didn't help. I've hit the reset button, but that didn't work either. Any suggestions?
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#2 Posted : Saturday, May 10, 2008 10:45:13 PM

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aacwks wrote:
I am needing some help with a wireless router. Since I now have a laptop, I am trying to get this Linksys WRT54GC router that I bought here a long time ago to work. I know that the paperwork and any disks that may or may not have been included are in this huge pile of papers on my desk, but I am hoping I won't have to try to find the needle in the haystack.

I have plugged it in, put the ethernet cable from my modem into the blue plug, and my ethernet cable going to my desktop into one of the 4 yellow plugs, but nether wired or wireless internet will work. I've tried unplugging the power and trying again, but that didn't help. I've hit the reset button, but that didn't work either. Any suggestions?
Usually you have to set up a pin for your router before you can start sending a signal from the router,which then must be entered into your laptop to receive the signal.the first connection from your modem should plug into WAN input,the next connection shouldbe lwan out ,and plug into the ether net connection on your home computer.Your home pc should then recognize the new hardware and start prompting you to set up the wireless router,Hopefully it will find the drivers and such to help you complete the set up.You also want to mark the router as private so only you and your's can receive the signalCool I hope this helps good luck!!!!!
(If all else fails maybe try a couple different cable's as sometimes they are bad as well)
tamashii
#3 Posted : Saturday, May 10, 2008 10:53:48 PM

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aacwks wrote:
I am needing some help with a wireless router. Since I now have a laptop, I am trying to get this Linksys WRT54GC router that I bought here a long time ago to work. I know that the paperwork and any disks that may or may not have been included are in this huge pile of papers on my desk, but I am hoping I won't have to try to find the needle in the haystack.

I have plugged it in, put the ethernet cable from my modem into the blue plug, and my ethernet cable going to my desktop into one of the 4 yellow plugs, but nether wired or wireless internet will work. I've tried unplugging the power and trying again, but that didn't help. I've hit the reset button, but that didn't work either. Any suggestions?


What model is your modem? Can you get in to the router from your web browser? Go to 192.168.1.1 and login with admin as your password.
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tenguzake
#4 Posted : Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:01:18 PM

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they have easy to follow instructions online. here's the link to the model you listed.
http://www.linksys.com/s...Common%2FVisitorWrapper
kimota
#5 Posted : Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:20:38 PM

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Take note of this, you may need it later.

Unplug the power for your cable modem and your router. Replug the cable modem, and this is the important part, wait until the lights on your modem indicate you have established a steady signal (takes about 20-30 seconds or so). It will probably have a cable light on steady, a power light on steady and a PC light, which should be off (there may be variations). Only then, replug the power for your router. The PC light on the modem should start responding then. It should take just a few seconds for the router to get ready.

The most common oversight with people setting up a router is they don't wait for the modem to establish its signal first before powering on their router. If you have a power failure or something of that nature, keep that in mind.

Check the IP address. (I'm assuming you have Windows XP) Go to Start>Control Panel>Network Connections. Then right click on Local Area Connection (for the one that's hardwired to the router) and choose Status. Go to the Support tab. You should have an IP address that starts 192.168.something.something. If not, try clicking Repair and get if it acquires the proper IP address. If still no change, reboot the computer. If you have an address starting 192.168, you should be able to open the browser and be ready to go.

If you still have problems, PM me and we'll make arrangements to help you out.


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scaredwitless
#6 Posted : Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:07:17 AM

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Aacks, some good advice already stated.

My addendum advice is

1. push in the reset button and hold it in for at least 15 seconds and then release. That will clear the nvram, essentially restoring the router's internal settings to default.

2. Modem in WAN port, and desktop on one of the LAN ports.

3. get on desktop. If you use Windows, click on the start menu and click on run. Then in the box that pops up type in cmd and then enter.

4. you should have a DOS prompt. Type "ipconfig /release" without the quotes and then hit enter. Then type "ipconfig /renew" and hit enter. You SHOULD see a confirmation saying you were assigned a IP, probably it will be 192.168.1.100

5. If that went according to plan, see if internet is working. It very well might be.

If it still is not:

6. From a webrowser enter 192.168.1.1 in the URL bar, hit enter, and when it asks for login and password, leave login blank but put "admin" (without quotes) in password. that is the default for Linksys routers.

7. Should be in the router config now. Look for a screen that lists the WAN IP. Should be a release and renew button there. Click release and then renew. Try internet again.

If it is still not working, we need more info from you. What kind of broadband do you have? what provider? If it is DSL you might have PPPoe authentication, which means you would need to set the connection type to PPPoe in the router configf and enter your ISP login and password. If you have cable it is possible your ISP is one of those who uses MAC address filtering. Which means that they lock your service to the address your original connected NIC had (probably your desktop I'm assuming). If that is the case you can get around this by finding MAC cloning in the router and clone your desktop address, or call the ISP and ask them to reset this to the new MAC. Some DSL companies do that as well. Sometimes you can just wait a period of time and it'll automatically update.

Once you have the internet working, then tackle other issues:

1. Change the router password. Most people don't do this. Be secure!

2. Okay set a SSID for your wireless network, that's the name of the network it announces to the world... A lot never change this either.

3. Do you want your wireless to be open or locked down? I don't recommend open as it also exposes your computers via the network to the world too. But it's your choice.

4. If you DO want to lock it down, setup encryption--WPA or WPA2 preferably. With WPA you can set a password that only has to be at least 8 characters. You will then need to enter that password on the authentication process on your laptop.

5. Default wireless channel is 6, and as you can imagine 6 is always crowded because most people don't change defaults. If your router has a wireless survey function, run it to see what channels are being used around you. Then pick the one least used for yourself. In the US we have channels 1-11. But the recommended three to use are 1, 6, or 11. Because being spaced out like that it avoids cross bleeds.

6. Some would further advise to lock down by hiding the SSID (usually an option) and enabling MAC filtering, and you could do that. BUT I don't even think it's worth bothering. Hiding SSID announcement mainly will only cause you headaches with reconnecting to the network. And MAC addresses are stupidly easy to spoof. IE: anyone determined to get into your network for whatever reason, probably would not have any issue leaping past these two "deterrents". WPA will keep you safe.

BUT let me say this, before locking down the wireless if you're going to, MAKE sure it is working in the first place before doing so or it will be a headache trying to troubleshoot if you have issues. IE it should give you nett access unsecured first before securing.
tamashii
#7 Posted : Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:26:24 AM

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scaredwitless wrote:
4. If you DO want to lock it down, setup encryption--WPA or WPA2 preferably. With WPA you can set a password that only has to be at least 8 characters. You will then need to enter that password on the authentication process on your laptop.


Very good and thorough advice in the entire reply! For your WPA password, try to make it completely random and very long (30+ characters). You can always save the network settings for later and auto-connect to it. Good luck!
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kimota
#8 Posted : Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:07:03 AM

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scaredwitless wrote:
If it is still not working, need more info from you. What kind of broadband do you have? what provider?


Good point, I forgot about that. I read aacwks sentence about "ethernet cable" and "modem" and my mind jumped to the conclusion of "cable modem". If you have DSL, it might need a little more tweaking. It would also help if you tell us what manufacturer and model your modem is. If it's DSL, the PPPoE might be stored in the modem or in your computer.

Good point also about holding in the reset button for 15 seconds on the router. If it's a returned or refurbished router, it might still have some settings in there that need to be cleared out. Even though you tried the reset button, you may not have held it in long enough.
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#9 Posted : Sunday, May 11, 2008 6:27:46 AM

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I am clueless when it comes to this stuff...I just do a million ifferent things until something works Bad Grin Bad Grin Bad Grin

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scaredwitless
#10 Posted : Sunday, May 11, 2008 11:08:04 AM

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kimota wrote:


Good point, I forgot about that. I read aacwks sentence about "ethernet cable" and "modem" and my mind jumped to the conclusion of "cable modem". If you have DSL, it might need a little more tweaking. It would also help if you tell us what manufacturer and model your modem is. If it's DSL, the PPPoE might be stored in the modem or in your computer.

Good point also about holding in the reset button for 15 seconds on the router. If it's a returned or refurbished router, it might still have some settings in there that need to be cleared out. Even though you tried the reset button, you may not have held it in long enough.


Yep, didn't mean to step on your toes or anything, you already gave good advice. Just wanted to add to it, and well I can't help but be thorough sometimes, even if it's repeating things.

Good point on the modem!
aacwks
#11 Posted : Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:50:27 PM

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Thanks for all the advice! I will try later today when I have more time to get it working. From what I see it looks like it shouldn't be a problem now.

I have Cox cable for internet, not DSL. The modem is a Scientific Atlanta Webstar DPC2100 series.
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What is Y.E.S.S.? Find out here: www.arc-sedgwickcounty.org/YESS.html

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#12 Posted : Sunday, May 11, 2008 11:31:36 PM

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For me, computers are like cars. They are awesome when they are running great - but when they break down, I'm clueless as to how to make repairs. Sometimes, I feel like chunking my PC out the window!!!!

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#13 Posted : Monday, May 12, 2008 8:14:26 AM

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HendersonHenderson wrote:
For me, computers are like cars. They are awesome when they are running great - but when they break down, I'm clueless as to how to make repairs. Sometimes, I feel like chunking my PC out the window!!!!



Actually I never seem to have a problem figuring out what's wrong with my computer Confused Confused Confused

It's a LOT of other 'tech' things I can't seem to figure out d'oh! And yes..those I want to chuck out the window!!!
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