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FTC shipping laws...and changes needed by fling Options
chadman438
#1 Posted : Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:14:23 AM

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Actual Laws
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/c.../pubs/credit/billed.htm
The Mail or Telephone Order Merchandise Rule
This rule covers merchandise you order by mail, telephone, computer and fax. It requires merchants to have a reasonable basis for claiming they can ship an order within a certain time.

Ship Dates

By law, a merchant should ship your order within the time stated in its ads or over the phone. (5 days per FAQ) If the merchant doesn't promise a time, you can expect it to ship your order within 30 days.
The shipment "clock" begins when the merchant receives a "properly completed order." That includes your name, address and payment (check, money order or authorization to charge an existing credit account - whether the account is debited at that time or not).
If the merchant doesn't promise a shipping time and you are applying for credit to pay for your purchase, the merchant has an additional 20 days (50 days total) to establish the account and ship the merchandise.
Delays
If the merchant is unable to ship within the promised time, it must notify you by mail, telephone, or email, give a revised shipping date and give you the chance to cancel for a full refund or accept the new shipping date. The merchant also must give you some way to exercise the cancellation option for free, for example, by supplying a prepaid reply card or staffing a toll-free telephone number.

If you ignore the option notice, and the delay is 30 days or less, it's assumed that you accept the delay and are willing to wait for the merchandise.
If you do not respond - and the delay is more than 30 days - the order must be canceled by the 30th day of the delay period and a full refund issued promptly.
If the merchant can't meet the revised shipping date, it must notify you again by mail, email or telephone and give you a new shipping date or cancel your order and give you a refund.

The order will be canceled and a refund issued promptly unless you indicate by the revised shipping date that you are willing to wait.
If you do not respond at all to the second notice, it's assumed that you are not willing to wait, and a full refund must be issued promptly.
Refunds
If you authorized a charge to your credit card account, the merchant must credit the account within one billing cycle - not give credit toward another purchase. If you pay by cash, check or money order, the merchant must mail you a refund within seven working days.

From Thingfling FAQ " We ship all our orders within 5 days of payment confirmed."

This needs to be ammended immediatly to "We TRY to ship..."
If I'm reading this correctly this will give thingfling 30 days to ship instead of 5.

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kelleybest
#2 Posted : Tuesday, February 13, 2007 12:45:35 PM

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or just take it out altogether. or state within 2 weeks, that's been about when i get mine shipped received in about 3 weeks. TF can strive for ship within 5 days and when they get there, put this line back in the faq.

Jetmanjr
#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 13, 2007 2:47:26 PM

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Really, I think you just caught the staff with their pants down. I mean, they had a pretty busy week and according to some posts in other topics, they are trying to get back on the A-game. So if waiting for your stuff to ship a little late is really going to hurt you, then maybe there should be a disclaimer. Otherwise, I'd rather get my stuff late if they keep offering great steals!
jmayon
#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 13, 2007 2:50:01 PM

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Jetmanjr wrote:
Really, I think you just caught the staff with their pants down. I mean, they had a pretty busy week and according to some posts in other topics, they are trying to get back on the A-game. So if waiting for your stuff to ship a little late is really going to hurt you, then maybe there should be a disclaimer. Otherwise, I'd rather get my stuff late if they keep offering great steals!


yEAH WAY TO KISS SOME****JETMAN jr

WHAT ABOUT WAITING 3 WEEKS TO GET YOUR ORDER AND IT IS NOT WHAT YOU ORDERED AND THE WRONG QUANTITY?d'oh! Question Evil or Very Mad
Jetmanjr
#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 13, 2007 2:57:11 PM

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Oh, dang. I forgot to wipe that shit off my nose. *wipe* There we go...
KK2K3
#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:49:12 PM

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Free shipping = No bitching Smile
Guzikov
#7 Posted : Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:29:26 AM

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KK2K3 wrote:
Free shipping = No bitching Smile


You just validated my entire rant from a few weeks ago. Still haven't received my $0.13
ZeteHitman
#8 Posted : Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:47:53 AM

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jmayon wrote:
Jetmanjr wrote:
Really, I think you just caught the staff with their pants down. I mean, they had a pretty busy week and according to some posts in other topics, they are trying to get back on the A-game. So if waiting for your stuff to ship a little late is really going to hurt you, then maybe there should be a disclaimer. Otherwise, I'd rather get my stuff late if they keep offering great steals!


yEAH WAY TO KISS SOME****JETMAN jr

WHAT ABOUT WAITING 3 WEEKS TO GET YOUR ORDER AND IT IS NOT WHAT YOU ORDERED AND THE WRONG QUANTITY?d'oh! Question Evil or Very Mad


Ha, got my order in 4 days
20 things flung Smile
amazonshopper
#9 Posted : Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:03:01 AM

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Guzikov wrote:
KK2K3 wrote:
Free shipping = No bitching Smile


You just validated my entire rant from a few weeks ago. Still haven't received my $0.13

Would you want me to paypal you the $0.13? Wink I don't mind. TF has been good to me, so i'm eager to spread some TF love. Dancing
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:22:59 AM

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Guzikov wrote:
KK2K3 wrote:
Free shipping = No bitching Smile


You just validated my entire rant from a few weeks ago. Still haven't received my $0.13


Rolling Eyes I just can't believe this guy is still going on about 13 cents. This is getting to the point where it's hilarious!
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kelleybest
#11 Posted : Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:50:58 AM

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ZeteHitman wrote:
jmayon wrote:
Jetmanjr wrote:
Really, I think you just caught the staff with their pants down. I mean, they had a pretty busy week and according to some posts in other topics, they are trying to get back on the A-game. So if waiting for your stuff to ship a little late is really going to hurt you, then maybe there should be a disclaimer. Otherwise, I'd rather get my stuff late if they keep offering great steals!


yEAH WAY TO KISS SOME****JETMAN jr

WHAT ABOUT WAITING 3 WEEKS TO GET YOUR ORDER AND IT IS NOT WHAT YOU ORDERED AND THE WRONG QUANTITY?d'oh! Question Evil or Very Mad


Ha, got my order in 4 days


did you get charge any extra shipping?
kelleybest
#12 Posted : Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:51:30 AM

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Guzikov wrote:
KK2K3 wrote:
Free shipping = No bitching Smile


You just validated my entire rant from a few weeks ago. Still haven't received my $0.13


thought you weren't worried about it....
Guzikov
#13 Posted : Wednesday, February 14, 2007 7:27:47 AM

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kelleybest wrote:

thought you weren't worried about it....


I want to frame the check, also what KK2K3 said validated my entire rant. so yeah, i stand by it.
jonrad
#14 Posted : Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:04:47 AM

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Guzikov wrote:
kelleybest wrote:

thought you weren't worried about it....


I want to frame the check, also what KK2K3 said validated my entire rant. so yeah, i stand by it.

I'm going to say that shipping for under $1 = no bitching.
I just invalidated your entire rant.
I'll even go so far as to say accidental charging of 13 cents = funny and does not equal bitching continuously. Unless, of course, you really need that 13 cents. If that's the case, I'll paypal it to you too. Between the previous post and this one, you'll be making a profit! That's a profit of 13 cents! If you bitch this much about losing 13 cents, I assume you'll be kissing our feet for a profit of 13 cents?
Nub015
#15 Posted : Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:30:22 AM

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jonrad wrote:
Guzikov wrote:
kelleybest wrote:

thought you weren't worried about it....


I want to frame the check, also what KK2K3 said validated my entire rant. so yeah, i stand by it.

I'm going to say that shipping for under $1 = no bitching.
I just invalidated your entire rant.
I'll even go so far as to say accidental charging of 13 cents = funny and does not equal bitching continuously. Unless, of course, you really need that 13 cents. If that's the case, I'll paypal it to you too. Between the previous post and this one, you'll be making a profit! That's a profit of 13 cents! If you bitch this much about losing 13 cents, I assume you'll be kissing our feet for a profit of 13 cents?


There you go encouraging him againBad Grin
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:34:42 AM

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Leave him alone...I did say I would send the 13 cents !
kelleybest
#17 Posted : Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:15:06 AM

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kingoffling wrote:
Leave him alone...I did say I would send the 13 cents !


postage due of course....Silenced Bad Grin Bad Grin Bad Grin Bad Grin Bad Grin Bad Grin Bad Grin Bad Grin Bad Grin Bad Grin Bad Grin Bad Grin
kelleybest
#18 Posted : Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:15:41 AM

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and please send it soon so he'll stfu
chadman438
#19 Posted : Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:12:49 AM

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kelleybest wrote:
and please send it soon so he'll stfu


Wow, that is the sexiest thing I've seen all day.
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KK2K3
#20 Posted : Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:42:48 PM

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chadman438 wrote:
Wow, that is the sexiest thing I've seen all day.



You obviously haven't seen me yet Smile lol jk
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